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	<title>Comments on: Video: Hip-Hop vs. America Debate</title>
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	<description>Hip-Hop on the Highest Level</description>
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		<title>By: Lexi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lexi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 02:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>man you should see the intire show if you haven't they make some go point an dtalk about real stuff and i love listening to T.I. and Nelly in the show they a lot smarter than people think</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>man you should see the intire show if you haven&#8217;t they make some go point an dtalk about real stuff and i love listening to T.I. and Nelly in the show they a lot smarter than people think</p>
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		<title>By: Tia Woods</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tia Woods</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i like your sign</description>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 22:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's a scenario in the most simplistic fashion. Let's say you actively soak up music so much so that you decide to become apart of it, a creative part. You, then, pick up a distinctive taste for creating the best lyrics and sounds you know possible and decide, "hey, I'm good," and visit a music site to post. Finally, you fill out your profile, upload your pics, and attempt to upload your music. But now, you've stopped.

Why? Because you thought you knew, for sure, what genre of music you belonged to and didn't stop to think just what it meant to be apart of it and if you may be apart of three others that are curiously similar. Since terms in music have often gone undefined and re-defined during periods of time, let's take a stab at re-defining a few.

One of the largest misconceptions, in my opinion, is that Hip Hop and Rap are the same yet two totally different music styles. This is not true and is rather confusing. Hip Hop is a culture, not just genre, and encompasses the collective expressions of DJing, Emceeing (MCing), Grafitti, and Breakdancing as well as the media and fashion it influences. The music you hear is Hip Hop music, designated as the marriage of DJing and MCing; what you may call, and should call, Rap. Both had quickly evolved and MCing became Rapping as can be done acapella (voice-only) or atop music.

So what's the point of all this? Well, to be quite frank, the constant avoidance of proper definition has led people to believe the very term "Rap" is hardcore and the term "Hip Hop" is softer and more widely accepted. Notice the feeling you may get when you see the words Conscious hip hop, Alternative hip hop, and Gangsta rap, among others, as if created to pin Rap against Hip Hop, but that doesn't even make sense. Too many times have artists continued to wonder if their genre is Rap or Hip Hop or both or maybe neither. Consequently, the word Rap has picked up a thicker coat of scrutiny and negative connotations from its hardcore sub-genre, gangsta rap, but really, this goes against Hip Hop all together.

Hip Hop music is a mix of all these new sub-genres and needs no specializations, but can use one distinct alias to lessen the confusion. The sheer fact that MCs have specialized themselves into these creative cubicals has only pushed them to further realize their fate as unidimensional stars, which turn out rather square. Quit falling into the holes and continue to break the sub-genre mold. These arts are already defined and do not need further dissection. I mean, will you be the queen/king of Hip Hop or the queen/king of Rap?

Considering I'm a believer in the Dignity of Simplicity, Pop Culture is to Hip Hop as Pop is to _ _ _. That's simple even if you didn't take the SATs. So decide; take Rap and bring it back to light as the official musical genre of Hip Hop culture but don't restrict yourself to one form of it, because when your audience grows tired of it, consider it a wRap.

(official blog @ experience.com)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a scenario in the most simplistic fashion. Let&#8217;s say you actively soak up music so much so that you decide to become apart of it, a creative part. You, then, pick up a distinctive taste for creating the best lyrics and sounds you know possible and decide, &#8220;hey, I&#8217;m good,&#8221; and visit a music site to post. Finally, you fill out your profile, upload your pics, and attempt to upload your music. But now, you&#8217;ve stopped.</p>
<p>Why? Because you thought you knew, for sure, what genre of music you belonged to and didn&#8217;t stop to think just what it meant to be apart of it and if you may be apart of three others that are curiously similar. Since terms in music have often gone undefined and re-defined during periods of time, let&#8217;s take a stab at re-defining a few.</p>
<p>One of the largest misconceptions, in my opinion, is that Hip Hop and Rap are the same yet two totally different music styles. This is not true and is rather confusing. Hip Hop is a culture, not just genre, and encompasses the collective expressions of DJing, Emceeing (MCing), Grafitti, and Breakdancing as well as the media and fashion it influences. The music you hear is Hip Hop music, designated as the marriage of DJing and MCing; what you may call, and should call, Rap. Both had quickly evolved and MCing became Rapping as can be done acapella (voice-only) or atop music.</p>
<p>So what&#8217;s the point of all this? Well, to be quite frank, the constant avoidance of proper definition has led people to believe the very term &#8220;Rap&#8221; is hardcore and the term &#8220;Hip Hop&#8221; is softer and more widely accepted. Notice the feeling you may get when you see the words Conscious hip hop, Alternative hip hop, and Gangsta rap, among others, as if created to pin Rap against Hip Hop, but that doesn&#8217;t even make sense. Too many times have artists continued to wonder if their genre is Rap or Hip Hop or both or maybe neither. Consequently, the word Rap has picked up a thicker coat of scrutiny and negative connotations from its hardcore sub-genre, gangsta rap, but really, this goes against Hip Hop all together.</p>
<p>Hip Hop music is a mix of all these new sub-genres and needs no specializations, but can use one distinct alias to lessen the confusion. The sheer fact that MCs have specialized themselves into these creative cubicals has only pushed them to further realize their fate as unidimensional stars, which turn out rather square. Quit falling into the holes and continue to break the sub-genre mold. These arts are already defined and do not need further dissection. I mean, will you be the queen/king of Hip Hop or the queen/king of Rap?</p>
<p>Considering I&#8217;m a believer in the Dignity of Simplicity, Pop Culture is to Hip Hop as Pop is to _ _ _. That&#8217;s simple even if you didn&#8217;t take the SATs. So decide; take Rap and bring it back to light as the official musical genre of Hip Hop culture but don&#8217;t restrict yourself to one form of it, because when your audience grows tired of it, consider it a wRap.</p>
<p>(official blog @ experience.com)</p>
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		<title>By: dat shawty</title>
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		<dc:creator>dat shawty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 04:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iight! here's what i gotta say and it ain't much!! if you dont like rap music or wuteva!! then don't listen to it! i mean on some real, there is no one forcing you to listen to it. turn it off. sure it ain't right to exploit and degrade women but dang just because one guy says something now its all hip hop's fault!! wuteva!! that's bs!! ain't nobody was sayin or making a bigg fuss before!!! there is far worse out there, so don't blame it on hip hop!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iight! here&#8217;s what i gotta say and it ain&#8217;t much!! if you dont like rap music or wuteva!! then don&#8217;t listen to it! i mean on some real, there is no one forcing you to listen to it. turn it off. sure it ain&#8217;t right to exploit and degrade women but dang just because one guy says something now its all hip hop&#8217;s fault!! wuteva!! that&#8217;s bs!! ain&#8217;t nobody was sayin or making a bigg fuss before!!! there is far worse out there, so don&#8217;t blame it on hip hop!!</p>
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		<title>By: Dayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RIZOH LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION. WHAT'SYOUR FAVORITE T.V. SHOW? 
OK THE REASON WHY I ASK IS BECAUSE WHEN A PERSON WATCHES THERE FAVORITE T.V. SHOW THEY KNOW ITS JUST A FICTIONAL SHOW SOME SHOWS ARE AT TIMES DEAL WITH REAL EVENTS BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY WE KNOW IT'S JUST ENTERTAINMENT. MY POINT IS THIS, HIP HOP IS A FORM OF ENTERTAINMENT, SOMETIMES IT DEALS WITH REAL LIFE EVENTS. THE ONLY REASON WHY THE GOVERNMENT ALWAYS PICKS ON US IS BECAUSE OF OUR CULTURE AND THE COLR OF OUR SKINS. THEY SAY OH WE COME DOWN ON HIP HOP BECAUSE OF MORALS, IF THEY REALLY WANT THIS TO BE ABOUT MORALS THEN COME DOWN ON THE MAJOR NETWORKS LIKE FOX AND ABC. I MEAN DAMN YOU GOT SHOWS LIKE DESPERATE HOUSEWIFES AND WIFE SWAP. WHAT THE HELL IS THE MORAL IN THOSE SHOWS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RIZOH LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION. WHAT&#8217;SYOUR FAVORITE T.V. SHOW?<br />
OK THE REASON WHY I ASK IS BECAUSE WHEN A PERSON WATCHES THERE FAVORITE T.V. SHOW THEY KNOW ITS JUST A FICTIONAL SHOW SOME SHOWS ARE AT TIMES DEAL WITH REAL EVENTS BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY WE KNOW IT&#8217;S JUST ENTERTAINMENT. MY POINT IS THIS, HIP HOP IS A FORM OF ENTERTAINMENT, SOMETIMES IT DEALS WITH REAL LIFE EVENTS. THE ONLY REASON WHY THE GOVERNMENT ALWAYS PICKS ON US IS BECAUSE OF OUR CULTURE AND THE COLR OF OUR SKINS. THEY SAY OH WE COME DOWN ON HIP HOP BECAUSE OF MORALS, IF THEY REALLY WANT THIS TO BE ABOUT MORALS THEN COME DOWN ON THE MAJOR NETWORKS LIKE FOX AND ABC. I MEAN DAMN YOU GOT SHOWS LIKE DESPERATE HOUSEWIFES AND WIFE SWAP. WHAT THE HELL IS THE MORAL IN THOSE SHOWS.</p>
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		<title>By: Yatgyrl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yatgyrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all since when did ppl expect outside entitities whether it be a rapper, pro athlete or whatever to raise their children. Secondly as a Woman I was not offended by Tip Drill or any other song like it because as an "individual" I carry myself in a way that warrants "respect" and its not what you are called its what you answer to!!! Thirdly lets not pretend that early hip hop was all clean , political and "deep" then either because as someone old enough to remember back in the day it all wasn't. 

The only problem I have with hip hop "Today" is that the "diversity" is gone at least in the "mainstream". This is the real problem. There's nothing wrong with someone being gangsta,  or offensive and to keep it "real" my NWA and DJ Quik was in rotation just as much as Public Enemy or KRS-1 however I had options back then, today the only rapper that's "commercially" successfully that someone 10-17 has actually heard of is Common. What is the solution( ?? more support of the underground which is still diverse??, consumers demanding from Radio stations and record companies that the Talib Kweli's, Little Brother's, and Slum Village's in the game get as many spins as the Lil Wayne's and Young Geezy's and 50 cent's in the game if so this is OUR responsibily as the consumer and the community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all since when did ppl expect outside entitities whether it be a rapper, pro athlete or whatever to raise their children. Secondly as a Woman I was not offended by Tip Drill or any other song like it because as an &#8220;individual&#8221; I carry myself in a way that warrants &#8220;respect&#8221; and its not what you are called its what you answer to!!! Thirdly lets not pretend that early hip hop was all clean , political and &#8220;deep&#8221; then either because as someone old enough to remember back in the day it all wasn&#8217;t. </p>
<p>The only problem I have with hip hop &#8220;Today&#8221; is that the &#8220;diversity&#8221; is gone at least in the &#8220;mainstream&#8221;. This is the real problem. There&#8217;s nothing wrong with someone being gangsta,  or offensive and to keep it &#8220;real&#8221; my NWA and DJ Quik was in rotation just as much as Public Enemy or KRS-1 however I had options back then, today the only rapper that&#8217;s &#8220;commercially&#8221; successfully that someone 10-17 has actually heard of is Common. What is the solution( ?? more support of the underground which is still diverse??, consumers demanding from Radio stations and record companies that the Talib Kweli&#8217;s, Little Brother&#8217;s, and Slum Village&#8217;s in the game get as many spins as the Lil Wayne&#8217;s and Young Geezy&#8217;s and 50 cent&#8217;s in the game if so this is OUR responsibily as the consumer and the community.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. Sims</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs. Sims</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for the individuals calling Nelly out of his name and hating on the fact that his children are educated; get a life.  He is obviously doing something right; he as the common sense to know that education is important.  If  you think his music is garbage, Turn your radio off!  Don't buy his CD!  Get over yourself.  That goes for how you feel about anybody else's music.  Just don't listen to it.  Like they said on the panel, at the end of the day, they are grown. You like what you like and allow others to do the same.  Stop complaining and jumping on the ban waggon.  You throw garbage out, right?  Then, stop ridiculing him and allow him to do what he does.  We aren't perfect, but we have the right to choose our careers and our means of being productive.  Go do what you do.  I do not agree with the exploitation of women, but these women have to take responsibility for what they do.  Since you don't like it, do what I do, turn the freaking channel and get over it!  Like he said, he presents these women with a job opporutnity; they have the right to say no.  For whatever reason they want to make this quick money; it's their business.  Change the channel and keep it moving.  You know what I do?  When I don't want to watch a certain video, I don't fuss at the tv or curse the artist out, I turn to the "word network" or I just turn to something else.  Thank you.  Now find something to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for the individuals calling Nelly out of his name and hating on the fact that his children are educated; get a life.  He is obviously doing something right; he as the common sense to know that education is important.  If  you think his music is garbage, Turn your radio off!  Don&#8217;t buy his CD!  Get over yourself.  That goes for how you feel about anybody else&#8217;s music.  Just don&#8217;t listen to it.  Like they said on the panel, at the end of the day, they are grown. You like what you like and allow others to do the same.  Stop complaining and jumping on the ban waggon.  You throw garbage out, right?  Then, stop ridiculing him and allow him to do what he does.  We aren&#8217;t perfect, but we have the right to choose our careers and our means of being productive.  Go do what you do.  I do not agree with the exploitation of women, but these women have to take responsibility for what they do.  Since you don&#8217;t like it, do what I do, turn the freaking channel and get over it!  Like he said, he presents these women with a job opporutnity; they have the right to say no.  For whatever reason they want to make this quick money; it&#8217;s their business.  Change the channel and keep it moving.  You know what I do?  When I don&#8217;t want to watch a certain video, I don&#8217;t fuss at the tv or curse the artist out, I turn to the &#8220;word network&#8221; or I just turn to something else.  Thank you.  Now find something to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Makesha Sims</title>
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		<dc:creator>Makesha Sims</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as hip hop/rap affecting our youth and influencing them; raise your own children and stop blaming the industry for your non-parenting.  If you instill the right thing into your children and do the right thing in front of them, they will go the right way (for the most part).  These artists should be able to be creative in their own right.  I am not condoning the bad language and the naked girls in the videos, but if the women want to exploit themselves for a dollarl; so be it.  That is their problem.  Monitor what you allow your children watch as much as you can.  Allow the artists to be who they are without scrutiny being scritinized by thier own people.  Oh, for the New York Columnist and Journalist that was on last night, just remember where you come from.  Some of us get to the point where we feel as though we are too educated to remember where we came from.  You never get too big to disdain your own people or others for that matter.  Bring it down a notch.  I am an educator and a christian, but I will admit that hip hop/rap affects everyone, but we control how it affects us and how we react to it.  TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOURSELVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as hip hop/rap affecting our youth and influencing them; raise your own children and stop blaming the industry for your non-parenting.  If you instill the right thing into your children and do the right thing in front of them, they will go the right way (for the most part).  These artists should be able to be creative in their own right.  I am not condoning the bad language and the naked girls in the videos, but if the women want to exploit themselves for a dollarl; so be it.  That is their problem.  Monitor what you allow your children watch as much as you can.  Allow the artists to be who they are without scrutiny being scritinized by thier own people.  Oh, for the New York Columnist and Journalist that was on last night, just remember where you come from.  Some of us get to the point where we feel as though we are too educated to remember where we came from.  You never get too big to disdain your own people or others for that matter.  Bring it down a notch.  I am an educator and a christian, but I will admit that hip hop/rap affects everyone, but we control how it affects us and how we react to it.  TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOURSELVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Kala Nation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kala Nation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 07:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Listening to this bunch of ignorant rappers,was amazing.What does Ti mean dont judge?My man you need to get a clue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listening to this bunch of ignorant rappers,was amazing.What does Ti mean dont judge?My man you need to get a clue.</p>
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		<title>By: dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 06:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i thiks it's pretty wack to be having this disscussion NOW! they shoulda thought about "thye children" back when luke was going to court over his lyrics! or back when hip hop FIRST started to get "gangsta" and "offensive". how are you gonna let something go on for 20 years now all of a sudden it's such a big problem? rap didnt become what it is today overnight! and some one like al sharpton has ZERO credibility with me! he's an OPPERTUNIST! he wasnt saying shit b4 the imus fiasco, now all of a sudden he's and a member of the hip hop police..... nicca pleeze! mofo's act like rap is the only violent outlet kids have, what about movies, the internet, video games? also since when does MUSIC raise a child? i thought PARENTS raised children....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i thiks it&#8217;s pretty wack to be having this disscussion NOW! they shoulda thought about &#8220;thye children&#8221; back when luke was going to court over his lyrics! or back when hip hop FIRST started to get &#8220;gangsta&#8221; and &#8220;offensive&#8221;. how are you gonna let something go on for 20 years now all of a sudden it&#8217;s such a big problem? rap didnt become what it is today overnight! and some one like al sharpton has ZERO credibility with me! he&#8217;s an OPPERTUNIST! he wasnt saying shit b4 the imus fiasco, now all of a sudden he&#8217;s and a member of the hip hop police&#8230;.. nicca pleeze! mofo&#8217;s act like rap is the only violent outlet kids have, what about movies, the internet, video games? also since when does MUSIC raise a child? i thought PARENTS raised children&#8230;.</p>
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